Monday, September 24, 2007

Saturday five hours were spent. The big highlight was the mis-matched ("L") angle. I'm still trying to decide what to do about that. Besides that, the rear hole doubler was put in place, the sides and top skins were mated and the bulk heads were drilled into place on the pilot side and top.

The fuselage is squared up.

On Saturday two hours were spent once again on the CNC error, and getting the interior gussets into place. The gussets still need to be trimmed.

Also, I am considering adding some extra ("L") angle to reduce the "audio slip indicator":



Fuselage ~27h ( 3h, 3h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 2h, 5h, 2h )
Wings: ~157.5h ( 1h, 1h, 0.5h, 2.5h, 4h, 1h, 1.5h, 1h, 1.5, 4.5, 1h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 1h, 3h, 1h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1h, .5h, .5h, 2h,3h, 1h, 3h, 3h, 4h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 3h, 1h, 4h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 4h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 1h, 1.5, 2h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 1h, 5h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 2h )
Flaperons: ( DONE! ) 23.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 1.5h, 3h, 6h, 3h, 4h, 1h )
Paint Design: 2 hours spent ( 1h, 1h )
Elevator DONE!: ~31.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1.5h, 3h, .5h, 3.5h, 2h, 4h, 1.5h, 2h, 4.5h, 1h, 6h )
Horizontal Stabilizer DONE!: ~28 hours spent, 3 pieces replaced ( 3h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 3.5h, 1.5h, 5, 4.5, 2h, .5h )
Rudder DONE!, minus horn : ~16 hours spent, ( ~8h, ~8h )
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Total Done: ~286h

Sunday, September 23, 2007

Recap of the question posed to the Matronic's Zenith list:

I'm having a bit of a problem. The ("L") angle that attaches to the top of the baggage back is off by exactly 10mm. This seems strange since every other junction is dead on, and the longeron splices are exactly even between the sides and the top. The flanges for the bulkheads were dead on.

So this leads me to believe it is a CNC error, but it's a little hard to get up there to measure and prove it.

Anyway, this has produced a gap too big to shim and I'm not sure what to do about it. One thought I had was to move the angle forward, but then the existing holes would be directly over the baggage back and the vertical ("L") angles.

My other idea was to ignore the gap basically since when I test fit the baggage back only the area near the gap didn't site flush. So I would add some extra rivets towards the inside of the panel to make up for it, and maybe add two gussets. My guess is that two rivets on each side would have to be skipped.


Photos of the gap problem with the ("L") angle that attaches from the top skin to the baggage back.




Sunday, September 16, 2007

Saturday we spent about two hours mating the passenger side skin to the bottom skin. To do this we also drilled the top side longerons to the top skin. Also the bulk heads were drilled to the passenger side.

This is all insanely cleco intensive.

Fuselage ~20h ( 3h, 3h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 2h )
Wings: ~157.5h ( 1h, 1h, 0.5h, 2.5h, 4h, 1h, 1.5h, 1h, 1.5, 4.5, 1h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 1h, 3h, 1h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1h, .5h, .5h, 2h,3h, 1h, 3h, 3h, 4h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 3h, 1h, 4h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 4h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 1h, 1.5, 2h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 1h, 5h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 2h )
Flaperons: ( DONE! ) 23.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 1.5h, 3h, 6h, 3h, 4h, 1h )
Paint Design: 2 hours spent ( 1h, 1h )
Elevator DONE!: ~31.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1.5h, 3h, .5h, 3.5h, 2h, 4h, 1.5h, 2h, 4.5h, 1h, 6h )
Horizontal Stabilizer DONE!: ~28 hours spent, 3 pieces replaced ( 3h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 3.5h, 1.5h, 5, 4.5, 2h, .5h )
Rudder DONE!, minus horn : ~16 hours spent, ( ~8h, ~8h )
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Total Done: ~279h

Sunday, September 09, 2007

Seven hours of progress were made on Sunday. The bottom skins, longerons, "L" angles, "Z" angles and bulkheads were drilled out to A4 and A5 holes. The everything was deburred and corrosion protected then reassembled.

The "L" angles for the top skin were drilled into place and trimmed, and the longerons were lined up and are ready to be drilled.

Everything was simple and straight forward, but the number of holes in the fuselage takes a hug amount of time.

Fuselage ~18h ( 3h, 3h, 2h, 3h, 7h )
Wings: ~157.5h ( 1h, 1h, 0.5h, 2.5h, 4h, 1h, 1.5h, 1h, 1.5, 4.5, 1h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 1h, 3h, 1h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1h, .5h, .5h, 2h,3h, 1h, 3h, 3h, 4h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 3h, 1h, 4h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 4h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 1h, 1.5, 2h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 1h, 5h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 2h )
Flaperons: ( DONE! ) 23.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 1.5h, 3h, 6h, 3h, 4h, 1h )
Paint Design: 2 hours spent ( 1h, 1h )
Elevator DONE!: ~31.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1.5h, 3h, .5h, 3.5h, 2h, 4h, 1.5h, 2h, 4.5h, 1h, 6h )
Horizontal Stabilizer DONE!: ~28 hours spent, 3 pieces replaced ( 3h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 3.5h, 1.5h, 5, 4.5, 2h, .5h )
Rudder DONE!, minus horn : ~16 hours spent, ( ~8h, ~8h )
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Total Done: ~277h
We spent about three hours on Saturday night. First the upper longerons were drilled to the pilot side skin, then the bottom longerons were transfered to the side skins. After that the torque tube bearing and doubler were deburred, zinced and riveted together.

When transferring the longerons, the best thing to do is to use a helper and hold the bottom skin next the to side skin to help accurately determine the position of the longeron on the side skin. In addition, use a Sharpie to mark the edge of the skin against the longerons and the position of the bulkhead rivet lines for additional accuracy.

A fellow EAA chapter member gave me a generous ride down to Portland in his RV-7A. That is a nice flying plane. The control was so nice I believe I need to fly down to Oregon again to get a factory ride in the RV-8... because it's never too soon to think about the next project.

Project Status:

Fuselage ~11h ( 3h, 3h, 2h, 3h )
Wings: ~157.5h ( 1h, 1h, 0.5h, 2.5h, 4h, 1h, 1.5h, 1h, 1.5, 4.5, 1h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 1h, 3h, 1h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1h, .5h, .5h, 2h,3h, 1h, 3h, 3h, 4h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 3h, 1h, 4h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 4h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 1h, 1.5, 2h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 1h, 5h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 2h )
Flaperons: ( DONE! ) 23.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 1.5h, 3h, 6h, 3h, 4h, 1h )
Paint Design: 2 hours spent ( 1h, 1h )
Elevator DONE!: ~31.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1.5h, 3h, .5h, 3.5h, 2h, 4h, 1.5h, 2h, 4.5h, 1h, 6h )
Horizontal Stabilizer DONE!: ~28 hours spent, 3 pieces replaced ( 3h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 3.5h, 1.5h, 5, 4.5, 2h, .5h )
Rudder DONE!, minus horn : ~16 hours spent, ( ~8h, ~8h )
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Total Done: ~270h

Thursday, September 06, 2007

We spent about two hours working on the passenger side fuselage skin. A good portion of that time was spent determining which of the pre-drilled hole lines the "L" angle was to be attached to. I found that placing a piece of wood between the "L" angle and table helped keep the pieces lined up.

Besides that, the sheer number of holes for the longerons takes a while to drill.

It turns out that determining if a skin is in the radius of an "L" angle or longeron is hard. To help keep the skin out of the radius of the longeron I used a red Sharpie to draw a line down the radius of the longeron. This visually made the process much easier.

Project Status:

Fuselage ~8h ( 3h, 3h, 2h )
Wings: ~157.5h ( 1h, 1h, 0.5h, 2.5h, 4h, 1h, 1.5h, 1h, 1.5, 4.5, 1h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 1h, 3h, 1h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1h, .5h, .5h, 2h,3h, 1h, 3h, 3h, 4h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 3h, 1h, 4h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 4h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 1h, 1.5, 2h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 1h, 5h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 2h )
Flaperons: ( DONE! ) 23.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 1.5h, 3h, 6h, 3h, 4h, 1h )
Paint Design: 2 hours spent ( 1h, 1h )
Elevator DONE!: ~31.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1.5h, 3h, .5h, 3.5h, 2h, 4h, 1.5h, 2h, 4.5h, 1h, 6h )
Horizontal Stabilizer DONE!: ~28 hours spent, 3 pieces replaced ( 3h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 3.5h, 1.5h, 5, 4.5, 2h, .5h )
Rudder DONE!, minus horn : ~16 hours spent, ( ~8h, ~8h )
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Total Done: ~267h

Monday, September 03, 2007

It took about 3 hours to complete section two.

A good portion of that time was spent testing the flat drill bit on scrap to make sure it would work on aluminum with a hand drill.

There were also two mysteries not solved by the plans or the HBH video. First the (Z) angle that runs alongside the access hole was about 680mm. The (L) angle perpendicular to it was about 180mm. The edges will have to be trimmed on all four pieces to an angle to match the pieces around them. Also round off the edges.

I also found that 7F6-1 ( Bottom Channel ) had the be trimmed by several millimeters on each side and the flanges trimmed to an angle to fit even though it was in the correct position.

Unclecoing the front of the bottom skin and then pulling it over works well for drilling 7F6-1 into place, but the entire assembly will have to be flipped over to install the (Z) angles and (L) angles.

It is also important to note that Zenith does not supply hardware to attach the access cover with. They do give you the option of riveting the panel to the skin.... but that's not really an option. Buy some nutplates before reaching Section Two.

Project Status:

Fuselage ~6h ( 3h, 3h )
Wings: ~157.5h ( 1h, 1h, 0.5h, 2.5h, 4h, 1h, 1.5h, 1h, 1.5, 4.5, 1h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 1h, 3h, 1h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1h, .5h, .5h, 2h,3h, 1h, 3h, 3h, 4h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 3h, 1h, 4h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 4h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 1h, 1.5, 2h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 1h, 5h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 2h )
Flaperons: ( DONE! ) 23.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 1.5h, 3h, 6h, 3h, 4h, 1h )
Paint Design: 2 hours spent ( 1h, 1h )
Elevator DONE!: ~31.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1.5h, 3h, .5h, 3.5h, 2h, 4h, 1.5h, 2h, 4.5h, 1h, 6h )
Horizontal Stabilizer DONE!: ~28 hours spent, 3 pieces replaced ( 3h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 3.5h, 1.5h, 5, 4.5, 2h, .5h )
Rudder DONE!, minus horn : ~16 hours spent, ( ~8h, ~8h )
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Total Done: ~265h

Sunday, September 02, 2007

The first part of Saturday was spent dealing with the empty crate. After unscrewing and prying the thing apart we got our driveway back.

In three hours the entire first section of the fuselage manual was completed. The rear bulkheads, (L) angle, (Z) angle, and longerons were all drilled into place.

Much of this quick progress is attributable to having seen the steps performed first on the Homebuilt Help videos.

Bending the fuselage skin forward to get to the bulkhead flanges is a great idea. To help with positioning the longerons, I backdrilled into the table through the bulkheads and (L) angle to allow the bottom skin to lay flat to the table while clecoed together. This technique also help keep the longerons in place while drilling and the skin from creeping into the radius of the longerons.

Project Status:
Fuselage ~3h ( 3h )
Wings: ~157.5h ( 1h, 1h, 0.5h, 2.5h, 4h, 1h, 1.5h, 1h, 1.5, 4.5, 1h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 1h, 3h, 1h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1h, .5h, .5h, 2h,3h, 1h, 3h, 3h, 4h, 2h, 3h, 7h, 3h, 1h, 4h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 4h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 1h, 1.5, 2h, 2h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 3h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 1h, 5h, 2h, 1h, 2h, 4h, 2h )
Flaperons: ( DONE! ) 23.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1h, 1h, 1h, 1.5h, 3h, 6h, 3h, 4h, 1h )
Paint Design: 2 hours spent ( 1h, 1h )
Elevator DONE!: ~31.5 hours spent ( 3h, 1.5h, 3h, .5h, 3.5h, 2h, 4h, 1.5h, 2h, 4.5h, 1h, 6h )
Horizontal Stabilizer DONE!: ~28 hours spent, 3 pieces replaced ( 3h, 2h, 2h, 2h, .5h, 1.5h, 3.5h, 1.5h, 5, 4.5, 2h, .5h )
Rudder DONE!, minus horn : ~16 hours spent, ( ~8h, ~8h )
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Total Done: ~262h